Zen Duck Forum

Okay guys and Gals, I hope you are well?

To get to the point.

I keep getting comments and emails about having a forum so we can all get in to chatting about stuff that may not be suitable for a public blog. I have been thinking about this for well over a year now and honestly have always dismissed the idea as a time sink.

This is not to say my time is any more precious than yours, it isn’t, but I keep getting these requests.

So, here is the deal.

I will do it if we get a minimum of 100 peeps saying they will sign up and pay $10 a month for the privilege.

We will talk about anything and everything we want in private.

I am being honest here and I am stating categorically that I will not set it up unless I get 100 people leaving a comment here saying they will be willing to pay the money every month. I will have to spend a good few hundred on vBulletin and sort out payment processing, blah, blah, blah. Any other recommendations are more than welcome.

Basically this is going to be private to those that join and I will be dropping in every day to answer questions and the like and that is a promise. But it will be for you guys to chat about whatever you want as the main focus with a few key peeps sharing their knowledge with you for free if they feel so inclined.

I am doing this only as I keep getting requests to do so and to be honest I don’t expect enough people to say they are willing to pay the ten bucks to get it going. But at least the issue will have been laid to rest and if at any point in the future I get the appropriate numbers then I will set it up.

I thank you.


First ten to answer will get a free life-time subscription. IF they are genuine about paying if they don’t make the top ten.

p.p.s Yeah, I know, this is one of those posts where it never turns out like you expected. To those that have asked for a forum don’t say I didn’t warn you.

p.p.p.s Is ten bucks too much or not enough? Give me your ideas about what you want to pay, what you want to be on the forum and if you want it at all. Or think that a free public forum would be better. I don’t personally, we can chat here on the blog as far as I am concerned if it is to be public. I won’t be making a public forum but your comments on the subject are welcome.

UPDATE: Well, in just a few days we have near to half the number needed to make a forum work. If you want it to happen then please cajole your friends and anyone else you think might be interested. Get them to leave a comment stating that they are interested and send some link love this way on your favorite social platform.

Some ideas for what will be in the paid forum are as follows:

  • Access to be able to ask me questions directly with full and complete answers
  • Tips on optimization and quick ways to up the bank balance
  • Discounts on products offered by friends of the Zen Duck
  • Sub-sections of your choosing as it will be based on what you want not what I think you want
  • The ability to be part of something exclusive and learn how to beat your competition
  • A private place to talk about strategies not spoken about here
  • Regular guides by me exclusive to the forum
  • and much much more

If you know me and have a product that you will offer at a discount price then let me know in the comments. Hopefully this alone will make it worth joining.

Anyway, it will evolve once up and running but it will only happen if we get 100 peeps stating they are interested. There is a long way to go yet.

Go tell your buddies!

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  1. ben says:

    Hi Dave,

    Count me in πŸ™‚


      • ben says:

        Hurry up Dave,

        I’ve got my first (of many) forum post ready.
        You’ll love it; it’s a fresh take on an “Old Skool” aproach to new site indexing.

        Get your ar*e in gear! ( and I agree with various comenters, just use a free script; we don’t need anything fancy)


        • Dave says:


          Wow, cool that you are thinking ahead. I looked around and everyone seemed to recommend vbulletin if you want a membership site. But if it happens I will carry on searching and set up whatever seems to be the best solution. And recommendations from everyone are very welcome if they have any experience with forums.

  2. JohnM says:

    I’m in too, or #2 πŸ™‚

    • Dave says:


      Cool, Watch the comments stop after number 10 though. Don’t say I didn’t try πŸ˜‰

      • JohnM says:

        oh ye of little faith….a private forum where we can talk and expand your ideas for $10 is cheap compared to staring at the computer screen wondering what to do next.

  3. Nick says:

    I’m in Dave, sounds great!

    • Dave says:


      If it happens then you get a free pass Dude.

      • Nick says:

        Cheers Dave – I think you will be pleasantly surprised! Unless of course you really do have only a few readers! We all know you are being modest though!

        Quick unrelated question (which I should save for the new forum!). You have inspired me to start my own mini satellite system and I am now trying to work out hosting. Do you reckon 1 reseller hosting would suffice or would I be better getting 5 shared hosting accounts and putting 3 or 5 sites on each?

        Also, I am planning on making them general satellite sites so I can link to all my money sites in various niches. Good or bad idea?

        Cheers duder

        • Dave says:

          Nick, after my recent hack and my stupidity at having too many sites on one hosting account I would go with various hosting accounts. And put 5 or 10 sites on each in case one gets hacked.

          I would make them niche specific though. Make a mini site about your main site topic and link only to the main site and other mini sites in the same niche. Relevant links will count for a lot more. Plus then you can link to the mini site, monetize it and maybe earn and the keyword specific link juice you send to it will filter through to the main site. A win win situation really. I would do a mini site or even 2 or 3 on each hosting account you get and interlink them and also link to the main site. Leave the links on the homepage once you set the sites up.

          And, um, yeah, there really aren’t that many peeps that read this site, it is very small. it is just that we have the good guys here who like to share info and help each other out so I doubt we will get 100 peeps who want to join. But I wanted to put the offer out there as quite a few have asked about it even going back to near the beginning of the old site.

          Man, what a mouthful that site was to remember πŸ˜‰

  4. jay says:

    Initially I thought no. But really, there’s no other place to get really good info, from trusted people all striving to succeed right now other than the TKA forum. At least not that I’ve found – but I’m still fairly new to this.

    Maintaining the forum would be a drag and time drain so you would need to get some compensation for it I would think.

    $10 seems reasonable and it would keep out all the riff-Raff.

    • Dave says:


      Good comment Dude, thanks. You are right, the peeps that come here and leave such valuable comments really do make the site. And Dudes like Terry and many others have been invaluable in making it a nice, and a small, but genuine community. Whether we get a forum or not remains to be seen, I am very doubtful, but it is still a great place to chat about IM etc.

      But we can’t go too far over to the “Dark side” in public πŸ˜‰

  5. Tyler B. says:

    There’s nothing like a group of people that are like minded using alot of the same techniques.

    i’d be down for sure as i’d consider it one big mastermind!

  6. JanisG says:

    Count me in.

    It would be nice to have a place where we could discuss some topics that should not be shared in public.

    Should it be about 100 or whatever number of peeps? I don’t know. I would say it should be about people whom you’d trust and who would contribute.


  7. Sarah Morse says:

    I’m usually a lurker here, Dave, but I’ve been following your blogs for a long time. You actually kick started my whole entrance into the internet marketing world.

    I’d be in with a forum. You seem to attract a thoughtful, interesting crowd that would make for a good group. $10/month is perfect, too. Definitely doable (even for newbies) and it will keep the place clean.

    I bet, once you got it going, you could delegate some of the housekeeping tasks to people who would do it for a small fee or even for freee (although I’m not sure in the IM world you’d find many people willing to do something like that for free). But maybe you could trade the membership fee for the task of moderating, just so it wouldn’t be such a burden on you.

    • Dave says:


      Good to hear from you, I love it when people comment that keep a low profile.

      I don’t mind running it as long as I know peeps are serious, hence the idea of charging. But we shall see. But great to hear from you Sarah, and that means a lot knowing I helped you get going. Just don’t believe in anyone but yourself and your won work ethic. Us IM’ers are often full of the proverbial πŸ˜‰

  8. daveh says:

    I’m in Dave

  9. Darrell says:

    Hiya Dave

    While I think it has merit, but, I will pass. I am going to limit my time on reading much of anything to less than 1 hr per day max, and yes, including yours. You have given lots of information and most people that know how to build a wordpress blog or static site, hopefully by now, understand the basics. Honestly, I am not sure what else people need to discuss in private.

    We write stuff around keyword terms for seo. Send some back links and over time, if done correctly, you can rank. Rinse and repeat massively. Yes, there are a few other things and for new people, sometimes information overload in itself causes a paralysis of analysis and end up doing nothing.

    I am not sure why you have to spend a few hundred on anything. Couldn’t you just set up a phpbb forum instead? Its the same sort of process and it doesn’t cost anything extra. Buy a domain or use a sub directory of zen duck, go to your c-panel, click on fantastico and 1 of the options at the bottom is discussion boards – choices phpbb or smf. You simply upload a phpBB forum instead of wordpress right.


    • Dave says:


      I understand totally. The most money is going to be made by work and worm only once you know the basics. There are certain tactics, layouts etc that can help but it mostly comes down to the work. You have an intelligent head on your shoulders. I am basically looking at a place where peeps can come to hang and chat for a while very day, and it is why I put the price tag on it. I won’t do it unless I think peeps are serious.

      As to the forum setup, everything I have read seems to point to vBulletin as the best but I can certainly stand corrected on that one. The only other forum I have ever had I forgot about for a few months and it ended up with 70,000 users all using it for profile spam!

      I don’t want to go down that road again.

  10. Robert Storm says:

    Sounds good Dave – count me in as well. It also looks like I might be one of the first ten too?


  11. Steph says:

    I’d love to do it too – I think it is a great idea. You could have someone else be the moderator, although if there is a monthly charge, the amount of moderating that has to be done should be minimal.

    • Dave says:


      Cool. Yeah, hopefully if it is private membership only then it won’t need moderating. We are all adults and there won’t be any spammers.

  12. mkt says:

    Im in too…lol

  13. Joel says:

    I am already getting a lot of free good good information from this website. If I get more good good information for a $10 monthly subscription, count me in.

    • Dave says:


      Cool, thanks for the kind comment, you guys really make my day you know? Forum or not I appreciate all the nice words.

  14. Camilla says:

    Count me in as well, Dave!

  15. Nic says:

    Count me in as well – have set myself some pretty big goals for the next six months and will need all the help I can get!

    • Nic says:

      I also got all excited when I saw the title of the post “Zen Duck Forum” and thought it might be a clickable link.

    • Dave says:


      If it happens then I will be there daily to answer any questions and that is a promise.

      Well, apart from weekends and hangover days πŸ˜‰

  16. Riccardo says:

    Add my name to the list πŸ™‚

  17. Patrick says:

    Count me in if there is going to be a forum

  18. Bruno says:

    I’m in!

    I believe I’m #10 hehe

  19. Bruno says:

    #1 Ben
    #2 JohnM
    #3 Nick
    #4 Jay
    #5 Tyler
    #6 JanisG
    #7 Daveh
    #8 Joel
    #9 Nic
    #10 Bruno

    Not sure if there will be 100 people to join, but let’s see what happens. You could maybe start the forum anyway and if you don’t reach 100, you could start the forum without freebies … Dunno … Well I wouldn’t mind paying even if I want’t in the top 10

    There’s plenty of stuff that we could share on a private forum, like setting up common accounts for Register Compass/Dropday to find some good aged domains … although we would have to set up a good payment system … well there are many other things we could do similar to that


    • Bruno says:

      ups! some comments weren’t showing up before, so I’m no longer 10 πŸ™

      anyway, as I said before, I don’t mind paying πŸ™‚


      back to bmr

      • Robert Storm says:

        Hey Bruno,
        I noticed the same thing – the list after all comments were approved are (in order):


        So, if it happens those are the first 10 above…



    • Dave says:


      Great idea Dude. This is exactly the kind of thing I want. We can bounce ideas, pool resources, sort out link schemes from a 100 plus dudes with sites they are willing to use, and God knows what else. I want it to be interactive and based around categories you guys want, if it happens πŸ˜‰

      • Bruno says:

        Yep, there are ton of stuff that we could do … Have you spoken with Lando? He might have something to add as I’ve mentioned to you in Fb

        And you’re right about charging. This reminds me of one great article that I’ve read some time ago:

        Highly recommended!

        Quote from that article:

        “The lesson: People are happy to pay for things that work well. Never be afraid to put a price on something. If you pour your heart into something and make it great, sell it. For real money. Even if there are free options, even if the market is flooded with free. People will pay for things they love.

        … There’s another lesson in here: Charging for something makes you want to make it better. I’ve found this to be really important. It’s a great lesson if you want to learn how to make money.

        … When you put a price on something, you get really honest feedback from customers. When entrepreneurs ask me how to get customers to tell us what they really think, I respond with two words: Charge them. They’ll tell you what they think, demand excellence, and take the product seriously in a way they never would if they were just using it for free.”

  20. djp says:

    I’d join

  21. Carrie says:

    I love the idea of a private forum (and love you) but I don’t like the idea of having to pay.

    I’m cheap and just have an aversion to paying for something like this monthly. If it were $10 one-time fee to help you with start up costs I probably would consider it, but the monthly fee just doesn’t sit well with me.

    And if anybody tries to chide me for being cheap I will forewarn you that I am having a VERY bad day. Please don’t mess with me.

    • Dave says:


      I had to go and get my Epipen today, after having spent hours in the Doctor’s the other week only to be given an inferior adrenalin pen that needed you to load a needle yourself. I have been totally freaked out ever since. Then I had to go and see a consultant yesterday when I thought I was going to be tested for allergies but wasn’t. Then today we also took the puppy that turned up here a while ago to get her final parvo injection today and next week we have to take her to live in a Dog pound. Not something I am looking forward too, or Wifey.


      Sorry, just messin’. My life is pretty much perfect, it is just that doing it all in Spanish takes a toll sometimes.

      You have my very best wishes in the world Carrie and I hope that whatever has happened is not too serious.

      All messing about aside, I understand your concern about a fee but I am just being honest and saying I will not run an ad free private forum without some recompense. Right or wrong I don’t know but I feel that if people pay a token price it will actually make it better.

      • Carrie says:

        I apologize if my comment sounded bad. It truly was a very bad day and things still aren’t sorted out. I just didn’t want one of those comments from someone like “what, you can’t spend $10 a month on your business”.

        I fully understand that you want to be compensated for your time. I just hope you won’t give up on this blog as I love your posts πŸ™‚

        • Dave says:


          It didn’t, and I hope you get things sorted out soon. I apologize too if I sounded cranky, I had been at the vino (I know, no surprise there πŸ˜‰ )

          I doubt it will happen, we are a long way from getting there, but if it did it won’t effect the blog, and thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it.

  22. Seth says:

    Count me out. I’m too cheap to pay for another time waster. But the good news is that I’m typing this from my brand new IPad!

    • Dave says:


      I got one too, I don’t really get it though. Apart from when traveling I don’t get why a notebook is not a better option. Even then if I had to buy one then I wouldn’t choose an iPad.

      Time waster?

      If it happens it will be Gangsta!

      What if I gave you a free membership? Would you join in?

      • Seth says:

        I might join in but not too often. As for the IPad, a notebook is better but I specifically got it so I can watch baseball games from.around the country on it. Nothing beats it for that!

        • Isobel says:

          I’m so glad you both said that about the iPad. Another friend of mine made a comment on his newsletter “I’ve given up trying to get any serious work done on my iPad.”

          They’re VERY expensive here but I was seriously thinking about geting one instead of a netbook, for the cool factor. You two have made up my mind – netbook it is πŸ™‚

          • Dave says:


            I got mine free and frankly I would not have been happy if I had paid for it. I don’t get it. I mean, you have to buy a cover, you pay for apps, there is no simple file/folder system. Why not a netbook that does all that a laptop can do?

            A good move on your part if you ask me.

            Slidey slidey action is about all they seem good for πŸ˜‰

  23. hospitalera says:

    Hm, really don’t need another forum to hang out, need to work and MMO, but I give you a free tip. Go for SMF (simple machine forum) and set it up so that you have to approve each new registration and ask people to send you an email to whatever (at) zenduck dot com and hand approve those. Don’t bother with fancy skins etc just stay with the default layout, less buggie, SY

  24. Wendy says:

    I’d be in, though I’d like the option to pay for 3-6 months up front because I hate recurring billing stuff. Even paying monthly I’d still be in though.

    • Dave says:


      Thanks. If it happens I will look in to different payment methods. Long way to go yet though before it needs to be considered.

  25. Shaun L says:

    The forum is a good idea, but not for me. For me they’re too distracting, and often filled with bad advice. While there can be some good stuff too, it’s long to weed through it all and find it.

    I’ve always liked your interactive comments section, you don’t have to log in and you can quickly read it (Without logging in) when you got a few spare mins in the day. Also it’s easy to figure out who to take seriously, as not everyone is trying to promote their own mmo product.

    If you do go ahead with the forum, then charging is a good idea. It’ll keep away the comment spam, and hopefully encourage people to really share the good stuff. $10 a month is a good price.

    • Dave says:


      Thanks Dude and I understand totally. It can be a time drain if it is full of rubbish. Hopefully charging would cut a great deal of that out.

  26. Sam Leekan says:

    Consider me in too. I good idea and I am all for it. $10 per month is a decent price. Anything less than that for sure will be prone to all sorts of people joining and making life tough for you also for members to discuss some ideas freely.

  27. Terry says:

    Dave, I have been running a private forum that I set up with Griz for almost 4 years now. The Bike Shed was and still is the next level above TKA and anything else you may know about for SEO and marketing.

    No I’m, not advertising it here. And NO, I’m not accepting any new signups.

    A forum is a drain on your time for sure, especially in the early stages when you have to administrate a lot of new signups. Charging $10 a month is a good idea – something I maybe should have done back when I started mine. It gives you more impetus to put that time into it.

    At the time, Griz and I wanted The Bike Shed to be free for anyone who was interested in taking their business to the next level, working hard on Griz’s own formula and keeping it amongst ourselves. Griz posted a huge amount of info that he couldn’t post on his blog because G was watching. We all learned an amazing amount from him and I and the others who are still there will always be eternally grateful to him for sharing his knowledge with us.

    Long and the short of it, the forum failed in one big respect – and that’s you can’t trust everybody.

    Someone or maybe a few members leaked some info to G, while also outing some of Griz’s sites, costing him a lot of money. Griz was furious and stopped posting in there.

    I carried on running the forum and there is still a hard core of members who still discuss things that you won’t hear about outside. Plus we have a trust thing going now that you can’t buy.

    Dave, what you start here with a new private forum could be the next big thing in terms of marketing education that can’t be had elsewhere for a new group of eager people who want to learn how to really master this game we play. With a paid membership, you should be able to hold onto members better than a free one where people don’t feel any commitment and drift away.

    I wish you the best of luck with it, mate! πŸ™‚

    • Dave says:


      Thanks for that, very informative. I never knew about all that, shame that someone always has to ruin a good thing isn’t it.

      As there have already been more comments than I expected I could actually see it working the more I think about it, but I am going to stick to the 100 members minimum thing or it simply won’t be worth it. We shall see.

      Shame about what happened Terry but I am glad you still have it and that it still has loyal followers. You better join mine though if it happens, you get a freebie of course πŸ˜‰

    • Mike says:

      I still lurk the bike shed πŸ™‚

      • Terry says:

        Hi Mike,

        Yeah, there are still plenty of lurkers in there hahaha!

        The old Griz info may be out of date, but also a lot of it still applies every bit as much today, even post Panda, as it did back then. The newer stuff we discuss is current, of course and how we get around problems in this game that are ever present.

        It wouldn’t surprise me to see a mini surge in interest from our “lurkers” after this post πŸ™‚

        • Isobel says:

          I used to be one of the moderators on Keyword Avalanche, back in the glory days of Adsense. That’s where Peter Drew, Mark Thompson and Tim Gorman, amongst others, made their names. It ended up at something like $97 a month I think and a huge amount of good info was shared there – as well as a fair amount of crap. It did teach you to distinguish between the two though πŸ™‚

  28. Mike says:

    Come oonnnn I miss the free lifetime membership? Dammit

  29. Darren says:

    You can count me in for sure. Other than TKA, I have not found any other forum where people share really great knoweldge about this business in a non-spammy. Your forum would be great for the next level up.

    I joined up with the warriorforum a few days ago, because I needed to do some promotional stuff – for a genuine service of mine – that would help me (not because I really wanted to). All I can say is there are a some seriously confused people around and a lot of sharks just waiting to eat them.

    I am totally thankful that TKA is the first place I landed when i first started looking into putting a home based business together Having zero knowledge about MMO when I started, I got the coaching I really needed – and now I have a full time I-don’t-have-to-go-to-a-job-income, big happy.

    • Dave says:


      Cool. I stay totally away from the Warrior forum but it is a good place to market stuff, no doubt.

      Great feeling isn’t it, you can’t beat working for yourself from home. Congrats Dude.

  30. Saabi says:

    Count me in Dave. I’m sure there’d be a decent amount of killer info. Your (and every other successful IMer’s) recommendations and experience worth a lot. So $10 looks a reasonable price for it.

  31. Wumi says:

    Hi Dave,

    I also have been following you for a long time, though never commented before.

    Just a little whinge though – your e-mail was sent 2 hours ago, so there was no way I would have been in the top 10! I’m from the UK so don’t know how and when you send your e-mails.

    Forum is a good idea but at the moment will not be able to join.

    Thanks for sharing very valuable information all for free for so long.


    • Dave says:


      Sorry about that. You must be subscribed to the feed via email. I have no control over how quickly the feed updates after I publish. Even for me it often takes hours for a new post to show up in my rss feed, it is an issue that I do not know how to control.

      Nice to hear from you though Dude, I hope you comment again. It is great to see who is behind the scenes when I write stuff here.

  32. Teodor Lazar says:

    I’m in for the $10. Let me know if it happens. But yeah, $10 ain’t bad for the Dave goodness!

  33. Neil says:

    Hey Dave,

    !st post I’m guilty of lurking also. I would definately be in.

    I was with TKA for a while and may go back for the tools, but like your ideas on aged domains, satellites etc. and a lot of stuff seems taboo over there.

    Wickedfire is pretty good if you can avoid the hammer or being banned.

    I like Wendy’s idea about paying in advance too.

    • Dave says:


      Great to hear from you, hopefully you will comment again. Glad you are in if it happens, still a long way to go and I have real doubts about ever getting to a 100 but you never know. Even if it doesn’t get there I appreciate your support and everyone else’s too, nice to know you enjoy the site. I guess with TKA they need to keep to a system so as not to confuse new peeps, it works but there are plenty of other techniques to use that it would be great to talk about.

  34. Tracey says:

    Is the wine getting a little expensive over there Dave? πŸ˜‰

    $10 huh? Hmm

    I dunno. Maybe. On first thoughts I’m thinking no because I’m a tight ass, but I’m also a curious gal and probably couldn’t bear it if everyone was talking it up with the tips on how to make da monies there. Hmm. Maybe.

    t xx

    • Dave says:


      Nah, it’s too cheap, and that is the problem! Plus lack of will-power. Although we are getting better and even have days with NO WINE AT ALL!!! Gasp.

      If it happens then we will all be talking about you so you will have to come on over to check it out πŸ˜‰

  35. Bea says:

    Okay, count me in, too. Will you email us when/if you decide in the affirmative, or will we just find out by coming to Zen Duck?

    I hope the payments are through PayPal (I dislike using cc’s.).

    The people who comment here regularly already share so much info, I figure the Forum would be wonderful!

    • Dave says:


      I will post here about it if it happens and then you can register. I will use Paypal, no problem. If it does happen, who knows it may, then I will allow everyone who first joins to dictate what categories etc the forum has. It will be set up how you want it to be so we will talk about that if we get enough peeps to join. Long way to go yet, I am surprised it has got this far already, and that is the honest truth. I expected comments to stop after the 10 free spots went πŸ˜‰

  36. Dieter says:

    I’m in, too.

  37. Cat says:

    Hrmmm… maybe! I’m on the fence because I’m moving my business in a new direction, and even when I do work on my sites, I don’t do most of the stuff that people here seem to (backlinking, satellite sites etc). So I’m not sure how much I’d get from it, or how much I’d usefully be able to contribute. Plus I’m always trying to avoid spending too much time on forums.

    On the other hand, I really like the community here, and I’m always open to learning about new ideas, even if I don’t decide to use them. And I like the idea of a super-secret forum :p

    So I’d probably give it a try for a month or two at least, although I don’t know how active I’d be.

    • Dave says:


      That is exactly why you would be great. We can talk about all different kinds of directions to go in, not just backlinking until your fingers bleed. It would be cool to talk about other ways to make money, other ways to build up sites. Social media, kindle publishing (there is good money in it, I have made a few hundred from 3 books so far) and all kinds of other ways to go about making cash.

      You can talk about your approach and I bet there will be plenty who run in a similar way. Heck, look at this site. No promotion, no backlinking, no search traffic.

      More than one way to skin a Cat πŸ˜‰

  38. ChrisCD says:

    Maybe. If the forum were also a great place to privately help folks with links, that alone would be worth it. However, I do dislike monthly charges. So maybe a higher one-time charge for life-time membership. Something like $150. Gives you a little more upfront, gives those of us that do it, a better return over the long-term.

    I think a charge is necessary to just keep out the spam. And you (and other subscribers) are taking a risk that some riff-raff will get in and cause problems.

    So know that I think of it, maybe we should be paid to join?!? jk :O)
    cd :O)

    • Dave says:


      This is exactly what I am talking about, getting input and ideas. Some sort of private link club can certainly be a part of it. A 100 peeps plus all willing to send a link to someone. I could even see about posting peeps sites anonymously and we all just send links to them.

      I will give you a tenner a month to join, does that sound fair?

      NOT πŸ˜‰

  39. Benjamin says:

    Hi Dave,

    If you go the monthly fee way don’t count me in. If you go the yearly / every 6 months fee or the like then count me in.

    I don’t want any more monthly fees, I already have way to many and it’s driving me crazy.

    Even if at the end it’ exactly the same I don’t feel like getting my money pumped the same way if I pay yearly or every 6 months instead of monthly, yes I know it’s weird πŸ˜‰


    • Dave says:


      OK Dude. See, I was looking at it that if it was monthly then peeps can cancel if they don’t like it. I wouldn’t want anyone to spend a lot and then regret it. But if it happens, still a long way off, then I will set up payment options for everyone.

      And, yes, that is weird πŸ˜‰

      • Benjamin says:

        OK Dave, then count me in anyway πŸ˜‰ I changed my mind + i’m cleaning up some cr*p monthly subscriptions I still have running !

        See ya soon on the forum then πŸ˜‰


  40. Hurdar says:

    Greetings all,

    Long time reader, first time poster.

    I skimmed through the member’s replies and noticed several members aren’t interested in joining your private board. I agree with them but still, if you want to go through with his, do the right way.

    I would advise you to do some closed beta forum testing. Open the forum for the first 100 members. Free of charge. After a while, ask the members what they liked/didn’t like.

    Then, when you have enough content (and glowing testimonials), you slam the $10 cost per registration.

    Personally, I won’t pay the $10/month because I’m 99.99% sure you will discuss the same thing that all the other FREE (and huge) forums do.

    The only guy whose forum I would happily pay for is Griz but he is smart enough to stay away from the forum scene.

    You don’t need a closed forum. Just create an account on G+ (or other social network) and start adding interested members to your private circle.

    People now are addicted to social networks, forums aren’t so hot right now.

    Or you could open the forum to everyone . When you have enough people CLOSE IT!. No monthly rent needed.

    Just like Mehdi (Stronglifts founder/writer) forum did.
    Read more about it:

    Plenty of people are willing to spend big bucks to enter this community but the owner doesn’t’ care. You want to gain access to the forum? Get in the line. Sign up for his list. If one day he is feeling kind you might get a forum account.

    I was a member of the Keyword Academy and after a while I ended up disappointed with the thread quality. I don’t understand why people have the need to spam gibberish.

    Glen Usopp’s ViperChill “VIP” forum is another case. As I write this, there are 12 members on the board. He’s also selling premium memberships. The regular content quality is “meh” at best.

    Why on earth should I spend my money on something they don’t even let me see? You don’t buy a car without trying it out first do you?

    Another problem is, each time someone creates an interesting thread, 90+% of the replies will be something like: “cool”, “nice!”, “thanks”, “i’ll do that!”. Who wants to pay you to read that? πŸ™

    That’s one of the reasons why the big cheeses in the IM industry don’t use forums. Or any important people in ANY industry for that matter.


    There are no secrets in the world of internet marketing. You said it yourself several times before: you need to work your ass off.

    I don’t need to tell you a forum is a terrible, terrbile time waster. I know it, I was one of the idiots that spent +6 hours per day on forums like Digital Point.

    You want to make money? There is an easier way.

    Patrick Rhone charges $5 per month for his thoughts and discounts for future products.

    Want to read more about Ev Bogue? That will cost you $25 per month.

    No forums there.

    If you want to do add a forum I would do it like Steve Pavlina did.
    Close forum comments. Each time you publish an article, create a thread on the forum to discuss that particular blog entry.

    There aren’t any other categories on the board. Your members can’t create threads.

    When people start begging for additional sub-forums…WHAM!!! Premium membership: $10 per month.

    I don’t know how much free time you have but I owned forums before and I’ll tell you they are a terrible time sink. And if you are the admin,
    prepare for a lot of additional grunt work that doesn’t pay.

    P.S: Sorry if I sound angry. I’m really not. English is not my main language and I have a hard time expressing my feelings through writing.

    Take care.

    • Dave says:


      Great comment and very interesting. You didn’t sound angry, just opinionated. I like the idea of, a good idea.

      IF it does happen, which it looks like it won’t as there is nowhere near enough interest then I don’t believe it will be like other forums. It won’t be full of mindless crap, but no one really knows until it happens. Going down the free route or using something like G+ is also not an option, if I am to spend my time then it needs to pay a little and I have been upfront about that from the start.

      But lots of great ideas Dude and a very interesting read indeed.

      • Nick says:

        Most of what is referred to and mentioned above is ‘mainstream’ advice which, even after Panda, doesn’t create a good stable business online.

        I’d agree that most things in IM are learnable and a lot of people know about them, but there are a few things that many people do not know about – good to keep those to one’s self πŸ˜‰

  41. Kasi says:

    Count me in as well, friend.

  42. Way says:

    You can count me in. But I would vote for a longer billing cycle. 3, 6 or even 12 month recurring is less admin for everyone.

  43. Jeremiah says:

    I love your style, just bought your e-books several weeks ago. Count me in. πŸ˜‰

  44. James Hussey says:

    I’d be in but not sure for how long. Just depended on the content and culture of the forum. I’ll plug your idea on Monday’s post…

    And now I want to storm the Bike Shed, Terry!!

    C’mon, man! Can’t I get in the Bike Shed?? I’ll pay you $11 a month…(Not really, well…I mean unless Terry said yes BUT no, not really…)

    I think $10 is fine, btw, but I don’t think you can prevent people from screwing you either way. I’ve been debating the forum or membership idea, too, but I think I’ll just post to my list some of the new ideas I’ve had and see how it goes from there.

    The idea of keeping your content private like that is definitely something that’s crossed my mind…tell me when you’re up and running.

    • Dave says:


      Cool. But I don’t think it is going to happen, nowhere near enough peeps yet, but we shall see what happens this week. Next post will be sending you a link by the way and I have some other interesting stuff people will be interested in too.

      Looking forward to hearing your ideas too James.

  45. Ryan T says:

    i would be interested dave, count me in,

    Shame on what happened to griz, used to be our shining light in seas full of hype and scams

  46. Mortimer says:

    IΒ΄m will join the zenduck forum!

  47. Kelly says:

    I’m already a member of one private forum very similar to the idea your promoting – It was definitely the best $9/month I’ve spent since I started in the IM business. However, while I have no intentions of leaving that forum, it is somewhat aimed at people new in marketing that are trying to find direction – as we all know, there are a million ways to make money in IM, and it can be hard to figure out the best way to do it yourself.

    Point being, I already know what direction I’m taking, and would gladly pay another $10/month to have ready help down the road I’ve already chosen.

    • Dave says:


      That is good to hear. If it happens then I will be there to help with anything I can and I am sure others will too. Long way to go yet though. But it has had more positives then I thought it would so far.

  48. Lando says:

    I set up a private forum a few days before you made this post. Great minds think alike! Or maybe you just copied me πŸ˜‰

    Count me in!

    • brandy says:

      And I just wanted to say, Dave, leave it to Lando, and you’re hassle free with basically the same people in:)
      Did I miss something? I don’t have a domain yet to join, so I didn’t opt in and haven’t received any further emails.
      Do I need to join with a domain to be on the AA mailing list and the forum?

      • brandy says:

        sorry for above off-topic.
        I would join the zenduck forum too. Don’t see what people are whinging about. 10 bucks’ like smoking an extra packet a month, I spend that a day. what’s the deal?

        • Dave says:


          You tell ’em Dude, it’s like a couple of coffees these days isn’t it?

          • Darren says:

            Yes really! The way I see it, if I get just one gold nugget of information each month from the forum, which I am sure I will, that makes the $10 worth it and then some. Also, the great thing here is that the comments for this site are not a bunch of fluff, and I can only see the forum following suit

      • Lando says:

        Hi brandy,

        Send me an email πŸ˜‰

    • Dave says:


      It has to be fate πŸ˜‰

      It really does, how weird is that?

  49. Reveal says:

    I’m in Dave. I’d see it as the next step on from TKA. From $1,000 per month to $10,000 per month. Also a focus on ecommerce type sites would be helpful.

    • Dave says:


      Quite a few peeps here do ecommerce I think so I am sure you could get some good talk going about it. The road to ten K is a great road to be on Dude.

  50. Blackthorne says:

    For a guy like you I’d pay $10 to access the forum.

    But since you know I would already value the forum even if I were granted free access, I’d expect to find some community cooperation in there if I were to pay for it.

    But I initially came here to ask you about that one free marketing image generator site that you have mentioned at some point in the past, Dave.

    I want to make use of it now but cannot remember the link. I get too many google results to sift through them all.

    So which was it again?

  51. BenM says:

    Dave, I’m in for a forum at $10 per month. Cheers

  52. Suzanne says:

    Hi Dave

    I would join your forum.

    Maybe there are more people that would join that just wont post here.

    • Dave says:


      Thanks, you could be right, but would they post in a forum if they won’t leave a comment?

      • Suzanne says:

        That is the thing, isn’t it? But people might feel more comfortable if it is not open for everyone to see, especially after a bit of time.
        From how many people that have already posted, how far off are you from going ahead with the forum?

        • Dave says:


          We have just shy of 50 that have actually stated they want to be a part. Not too bad but 100 would be better as then it will be nice and active, yet still like a nice little club, and I am sure there will be some that will join that haven’t commented. As you say, they many feel more comfortable once they know it is private. I forget that many feel a little awkward posting things publicly on blogs etc.

          Try and round up some more people πŸ˜‰

  53. Gerald says:

    Count me in as well but you should still maintain posting informative ideas here on your blog.

  54. Rachel says:

    Hi Dave

    Count me in:-) Thanks.

  55. Tiffany says:

    I’d be in at least to check it out and see what it was about. Not sure how long I would stay though.

  56. Billy says:

    Dave –

    I would be more than happy to get involved in a private forum here, in fact I would prefer to discuss and contribute in a place where I know the admin(s). I have been a member of another paid forum, and found the content far better that places like WFO, BHW, BLF etc.

    As an added bonus, I would be happy to offer a discount to forum members for a product I am soon to launch – something that will greatly increase your earning potential on Amazon sites, and could net you $100s more over the Christmas rush.



    • Dave says:


      Good stuff.

      I will be telling folks about your product next week Billy, and there is no doubt that a discount on it would be reason enough on its own to join the forum. And your knowledge when it comes to product creation, coding and thinking outside the box when it comes to earning will be a valuable contribution to the forum, if it happens πŸ˜‰

  57. Abigail says:

    I think it is a great idea, but it won’t be for me for now, mostly because of the cost, though I think it is completely fair. Love the blog, so will be following there for the moment, and would think about joining the forum in a few months perhaps. Thanks as always.

    • Dave says:


      Thanks for the input. And I totally understand, earning has to be the first priority. Maybe see you there in a few months, if it happens of course!

  58. Mark says:

    Dave, it could be a great idea….zen duck pond. But remember what you told me was that most forums die a slow death. Don’t loose focus on your blog zenduck. It’s simple, hard to manage, and most of us cheap assholes love it! Kiss!

    If you have a forum, I will be there but prefer the old fashion ugly blog with a zillion comments!

    • Dave says:


      Yeah, “The Pond” could be cool. I hear you about them dying a death, it is why I want to do it right if it is to be done. I will be active but so will others with lots of great advice too, Lando, Billy, Terry may pop in and help out too if I am lucky (hint).

      I won’t give up on the blog though, it is my baby πŸ˜‰

      Kiss right back at ya buddy!

      Make that 2, it’s how they do it here in Spain!

  59. Lando says:

    Low cost – private forum is a top idea.

    Should only attract genuinely interested parties.

    For me, that’s the downfall of Backlinks Forum (free). There is some top info on there but also a load of junk too. The BFSO section is so full of offers that it’s often a gamble as to which ones are any good.

    One idea I like, which Billy seems to have started, is that there could be some special offers for Zen Duck Pond members, or ZDPSO. [Dave: You gotta call it the Pond!]

    But rather than it being a free for all where everyone is trying to make money off of each other – we have to give a free copy of our “product” to Dave – he evaluates it and passes judgement – if it’s good enough he let’s people promote their products (affiliate commission free).

    Result = products can be sold cheaper while potentially making more for the developer -> Everyone’s a winner πŸ™‚

    • Dave says:


      The Pond it is, if it happens πŸ˜‰

      Backlinks Forum used to be better than it is now, there is too much of the same on it and I can’t be bothered to wade through it all any more. And I wonder what happened for Terry Kyle to pull out of it. Did you see what he did with a brand new MMO blog? Amazing stuff and shows the power of aged domain links.

      As to products then it will be just a few of you guys that will have a section each to talk about your product, all under Zen Duck Pond Deals πŸ˜‰ I will let you sell at a discount free of any aff links from me, but yeah, it will only be for stuff I use or really recommend. So far that is Automatic Authority and Billy’s new plugin just given to me. I am all for us all helping each other out and not trying to earn money off each other, an extension of the community on the blog is the ideal.

      But I will want you to deliver some killer free content too Dude πŸ˜‰

      Get some buddies to show an interest and we might just get there yet!

      • Lando says:

        I’ve just started an experiment today that may or may not lead to some quite amazing results. Whatever happens, it will be a learning experience. Definitely a story for the forum.

      • Bruno says:

        I just Kyle’s video on the new MMO blog, but I can’t be bothered paying $97 for his new e-book

        Did anybody buy it?

      • Shaun L says:

        What’s Terry Kyle’s new site and what did he do with it? I haven’t heard about this, would be interesting to see…

        • Dave says:


 A single page brand new site that got to page 1 for make money online in the google uk search. Also page 2 in A total nonsense site all done by aged domain backlinks.

          • Shaun L says:

            Is a bit lower for me, but that’s still very impressive. Had a look at his links, it shows over 70k in Yahoo, but only 8 in SEO Spyglass :-s
            I’m guessing that’s because the ‘’ might be an extension to another domain similar to ? If you have any more info to this case study I’d appreciate if you post it up, I’d be very interested to see what it’s all about / what he done.

            Has made me want to get back on the aged domain buying, haven’t bought any more since the initial few…

            • Dave says:


              I don’t know any more about it. It was just a teaser to get you to buy his latest course. I think it is $100 or so.

          • Shaun L says:

            Just realised you said page one not position 1, that’s what i’m seeing as well.

            I’ve seen his sales page with the info now so guessing that’s where you got the info from. If you’ve anything else though feel free to hook me up with the info πŸ™‚

  60. Have just moved so had no net for 4 days.If this is still open I’m in

  61. Tara says:

    OK, I’ve been sitting on the fence about this, was going to put it off for a few months but your mention of Billy Bluehat’s plugin in your newest post convinced me to join now. I’m in!

  62. slvrsrfr says:

    I’d take a boo under the hood for 10 buckaroos.

    Hope it comes to fruition so I can pay some tuition πŸ˜‰

  63. Randall says:

    Hey Dave,
    I’m in as well.

  64. Dustin says:

    Might as well count me in as well! You got me at exclusive content…..

  65. Richard says:

    I’m in. Looking forward to seeing it come up.

  66. Shawna says:

    As long as we don’t have to commit to a certain length of time, I’d definitely give it a try for the $10/month.

  67. Dean says:

    I’ll subscribe Dave, but you’re beginning to sound dangerously similar to these gurus who are cultivating a crop to harvest. Please excuse my cyniscism but I’ve been on that ride before. Time will tell,
    best regards,

    • Dave says:


      I will be honest here and say that I will not do it unless I get a return for my time, a grand a month or thereabouts seems reasonable to me. But please note that I will then be letting you guys buy odd products at slight discounts, like Lando’s course and future things and Billy’s plugin.

      I made a few thousand dollars from Lando’s guide as I promoted it with an affiliate link. On the forum there will be no affiliate links so I won’t be getting anything out of it apart from helping friends to earn better money and for no ulterior motive.

      But I get where you are coming from Dude, but I will try my best to not fleece you πŸ˜‰

      I try my best not to promote many things here, only stuff I use or as a quick mention to help people out. But I am in this game to make money, I won’t lie about that. But the main reason for this site and a forum if it happens is to have a sense of community where we can all feel comfortable and have a place to hang when we want a break.

      Oh, and there ain’t enough people who ever come here for me to make much money anyway πŸ˜‰

      Stay cynical though Dude, I may just fleece you yet!

      • Dean says:

        You’re perfectly entitled to make some dosh (I don’t have a problem with it), and you’ve helped me out loads in the past for which I’m grateful. A forum to chill out amongst like minded people would be great, so like I said, I’m in πŸ™‚

  68. Ion says:

    I want the Zen Duck Forums and I don’t mind paying for membership!

  69. Lorecee says:

    Count me in, Dave. You’ve always delivered on what you promise.

  70. Renata says:

    Count me in, but I do love this blog.

  71. James Hussey says:

    So what’s the word? This goin’ down or what, hombre?

    • Dave says:


      There still aren’t enough people who have registered an interest. Hopefully it will get there. I have had emails from a few folks bursting to get on there and share some free stuff and chat in private so I hope it does go ahead.

  72. James Hussey says:

    BTW, as an American, ‘The Pond’ sounds great…if you’re writing the next Jane Austen series of romance novels.

    It should be called ‘Duck Hunt.’ Old school Nintendo and gun powder. Put some hair on this thing.

    The pond…I’ll have to ask for a refund before paying you a tenspot. (OK, it really doesn’t matter that much to me.)

  73. Carrie says:

    Okay, okay, I can’t resist. I have to know what you guys will be talking about. Nosey wins over cheap.

    I’m in, at least for a month or two.

  74. crispo says:

    I’m in. Please open it!

    • Dave says:


      Wow, that was quick you guys. I assume this is in response to the email I just sent out via the newsletter like 15 mins ago!

      Cool. Getting closer.

  75. Marcin says:

    Hi Dave,

    I’m in πŸ™‚

  76. Gary says:

    I am interested in joining the forum.

  77. aaron says:

    Got spammed by the duck so no choice but to count myself in.

  78. ChrisN says:

    I’m in too Dave,

    Look forward to it buddy.

    • Dave says:


      After the emails I have just had about ideas for things so am I. We have another great discount just announced and an expert in ecommerce which will be very interesting indeed.

  79. Bea says:

    Hi Dave,

    I had already commented that I love the idea and would definitely want to join your Forum, but I decided to repeat myself because of the email you sent.

    The way you describe your plans for the forum sounds really great, too!

  80. Shaun L says:

    I know I said I wouldn’t be interested before, but I think I’ll give it a try. There’ll be no harm in seeing what the quality turns out like, I’ll just have to have a set time to go on so no constantly checking throughout the day.

    Also like the sound of the guides, both checking them out and maybe writing a couple. I’m sure you’ll let us know if this goes ahead, so if I get the word you can expect me there.

    • Dave says:


      Cool. I think getting some members a little extra cash by writing about what they are knowledgeable about will be a win win situation all round.

    • Dave says:


      Maybe we can get a Zen Duck collective together and publish a ton of our content to a Kindle book every 6 months and share the cash between us? I see lots of cool ideas forming once it gets going.

  81. Saldivar says:

    IΒ΄m interested Dave

  82. phil says:

    count me in, Dave. looking forward to it.

  83. Thanks for sending out the email followup to this, with a bit more detail about what will be included on the forum (and how often). It’s also nice to know that the other participants will have an opportunity to earn a bit if they have something of value to share. That info pushed me off the fence and into the “count me in” group. I really hope to see this come to fruition, as I’m pretty excited about what it could be/become.

    • Dave says:


      Glad it was helpful, and hopefully there will be lots more ideas too. I think it would be cool to have a monthly featured guide written by either me or one of the members. We have some clever Dudes here and I don’t mind sending some of the money their way if they do a good write up of a topic that members want more information/help on.

      I think we are getting closer to it happening, I guess I need to start doing a tally to see how many more signups we need.

  84. Papajon says:

    Would be v interested in joining in.


  85. Keith D says:

    ok, ok I’m in. I’ve lurked long enough. I’m up for seeing how it goes and trying to contribute if I can.

    • Dave says:

      Keith D,

      Yay, another lurker surfaces. It’s great to see you Keith, and I am looking forward to your contributions. Gonna be good πŸ˜‰

  86. Isobel says:

    I’m in too!

    vBulletin is pretty crap though on keeping track of unread posts. Once you’ve been logged in for around 20 mins it assumes all posts have been read, which makes it really hard to keep track of threads.

    I would use SMF from – also free – and easy to set up. I’ve moderated some really HUGE sites that use SMF, with no issues at all.

    • Dave says:


      Thanks, I will check it out. This will all be new to me so you will have to bear with me while it gets set up. Assuming we get about another 20 sign ups that is!

  87. SueC says:

    I’m in too Dave – but I’m not to interested in buying more “courses”, so that’s not a benefit, speaking for myself. But I like the forum idea.

    • Dave says:


      That’s cool. There will be plenty of free guides from me and paid members too. Plus Lando has informed me he will also be making free video guides too which sounds pretty cool. Plus lots of general KICK ASS conversations.

  88. JanisG says:

    Check out this YT channel
    The guy here has posted videos from niche and product reserch course. I dont think it is the author, so expect them to be taken down soon, but still you can find couple of nice ideas if you watch few of them πŸ˜‰

  89. nudos says:

    I am interested in your forum! friend! (cheers!)

  90. Sandi says:

    I can’t imagine how much better the content can be in the forum based on the great content you constantly give away for free. Sounds like a great plan, as long as you don’t neglect which I don’t think you will do. Thanks for the opportunity.

  91. Detro says:

    lets give it a try dave… i’m in.

  92. Jenninsd says:

    I’m with Keith on this one too, no more lurking…count me in and thanks for the invite.

  93. Khurram says:

    Hi Dave,

    Count me in!

    • Dave says:


      Nice, I think we need about 17 or so more peeps and then it will happen! Unless my counting is wrong which it could be.

  94. Sarge says:


    Count me in.

  95. Richard says:

    Hi Dave,

    Count me in. The first year’s investment can be the start of the pay back for all the information you have already provided.


  96. Jennifer says:

    Great idea! I’m very interested.

  97. An says:

    Hey, I’m in.

  98. James says:


  99. Kay says:

    Hi Dave,

    Long time lurker, first time commenter, but I’d definitely be in! Been looking for a place to chat about IM stuff ever since Ben’s forum quieted down but sometimes all I really have to say is “{Great post|I totally agree|Keep up the good work}” and I feel like you already get enough of those types of comments! πŸ˜‰

    • Dave says:


      Cool, great to hear from all the lurkers finally.

      Ben’s forum was good for quite some time but has been quiet for a long while now. I don’t feel like I will be stepping on his toes now as it has been such a long time. I am hoping that by peeps having to pay that it will stay active. And by giving some of the cash out monthly for cool guides and articles from members we should get a real sense of community and people will hopefully be queuing up to get their name in lights πŸ˜‰

      Are you spinning your comment text πŸ˜‰ That’s the sign of someone who has been in this game some time young lady!

  100. mark says:


    I love the idea of a forum. However, as you mentioned to me before that many forums die a slow death. I think once you get the forum up and running, Zen Duck may loose some daily numbers. For your sake, I hope this does not happen. If you are going to have a small forum, what is going to be the least expensiive for you in terms of time and money? We don’t want it to be a distraction for you.

    Count me in as I don’t subsribe to useless newspapers, cable tv, magazines, etc. I don’t even go out for crappy lattes and capuccinos. I may drink a beer or two, or pour some red wine. I can afford the “vice” of a great forum!



    • Dave says:


      Glad to hear you are on board. We will just have to see how the forum goes, I am assuming it will be a bit bonkers initially and then slow down to a more sedate pace. But I want monthly features of very high quality content that is written by the members and me as a backbone.

  101. Dee says:

    Hello Dave, I will absolutely join. I support you 100 percent. Next to God’s blessing you are responsible for my success

    • Dave says:


      Great to hear from you, thanks for the compliment, I’ll take it πŸ˜‰ Hope everything is still going so well for you.

  102. Gus says:

    Hey Dave, sounds like you need a few more ppl to make this happen so you’ve got my vote too.

  103. Tom says:

    I’m in, I’m new and ready to make it happen! My pal Chris hooked me up with this site.

  104. Lisa says:

    Count me in too – the email you sent out today swung it for me:)

    • Dave says:


      I am amazed at the response to the email, definitely a lesson in that for all of us. People really do respond to such things.

  105. Medic says:

    I’ve been lurking for a long time. I enjoy your posts. I’m interested.

  106. Dan says:

    Just started lurking here a couple of weeks ago == Found you after stumbling onto Average Genius site and have been really liking the content. Would definately be up for a member site if it gets more great advice like I have already read. Perhaps you could write a post on Cava’s — I went out and bought some after reading it was your drink of choice but really don’t know what to look for?

    • Dave says:


      I will be glad to have you as part of the forum. Cava, mmmmmmmmmm.

      No, must not think about it, it is 8 in the morning!

  107. Damien says:

    Okay, you’ve flushed out another long-time lurker. I’m not a great forum participant but I do like to read, learn and implement. I’d be interested in your little forum.

  108. Mark says:

    Maybe if all 100 people sent Dave and wifey a cases of vino, he may really spill out his secrets.

  109. Michael says:

    Hi Dave,

    This is good news. Looking forward to the forum.

  110. SPQR says:

    Count me in. A one off fee rather than a per month might be better too

  111. Stefan says:

    I’d like to come splash in the pond too – thanks…

  112. Dave says:

    I just want to say thanks for everyone being so supportive. We have enough to make this thing work.

    Please bear with me while I sort out setting this all up. I have a lot to learn now so I may be a week or so getting it all together, payment processing, actual forum, categories etc etc.

    See you soon at the

    • Suzanne says:

      Glad everyone is supporting you Dave. We all owe you for the great advice you give us.
      Wondered about somewhere for case studies, would be nice if we all share things like that.

      • Dave says:


        Thanks. I will add that to the list. I think it is going to be best to not have too many categories to start with so it does not look like a big empty and scary place to come.

    • Shawna says:

      wow, that’s great news! All the things you said would be part of the forum (in the newsletter email thingie) has got me super excited about this forum!

  113. Eric says:

    I’m in.

  114. Seth says:

    Well, it’s looking more and more like you are transforming into another one of those “make money online” blogger gurus. Not a bad thing if you can pull it off and it looks like you have the talent.

    • Dave says:


      C’mon Man, why you have to be like that? I have never tried to be any kind of guru. This is just my blog and that is it. I never claim to have all the answers, be right about anything, or even that more than a handful of people come here daily.

      And I think you know me well enough virtually to know that the recompense for the time the forum is going to take is certainly not making it the best use of my time.

  115. darrell says:

    I’m in

  116. Mia says:

    Count me in.

  117. Matt says:

    I’ll do it.

  118. Andy says:

    Oh for God’s sakes, I’m in.
    Way to close the deal, Dave.

    • Dave says:


      Cool. It should be open Friday. I have already opened it to those that got the free pass while I sort out the payment settings and it is going well already. We should be able to get some good things going on in there that will allow us all to boost rankings and much more.

      • Andy says:

        Here’s some input that may be worthless. Can you make the billing name that comes up on my business credit card statement sound professional and legit? That way I don’t need to justify it to my accountant!
        Just my two cents, ignore if I’m being a wank.

        • Dave says:


          I am looking in to it. It is just awkward as I don’t want the Paypal account too transparent that it is me if I use it to be paid for other things. i.e having it as Zen Duck then I open up another membership site or something similar and it is obvious it is me. At the moment it is set to something generic but if you pay via Paypal it will show in your history as a payment to the Zen Duck I think. I need to test it all to make sure it works yet though.

          How does than sound.

          Ignore if I’m being a Wank

          Priceless, you have to be a Brit right?

          • Andy says:

            Ha ha, no, I’m not a Brit but I did go to school in Lancashire for a term back in the 80’s. Some things just stuck. The best is that not very many people here in the States know what I’m calling them, so it’s the equivalent of getting away with bloody murder. Good fun.

  119. Eezwant says:

    Hi Dave.

    Long time lurker here. I’m in though.

    Can we get access already?

  120. earn says:

    Count me in as well but you should still maintain posting informative ideas here on your blog.

  121. Rob says:

    Hey Dave

    Is the only payment method for the forums Paypal as I am baned unfortunately.

    If there are other payment options I think I will join very soon.

    Rob Thomasο»Ώ

  122. Bill says:

    Hi there, I like your idea, let me know it will be operative, thanks.